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    Tony Veitch - the latest

    Post  canterella on Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:28 pm

    Tony Veitch has pleaded guilty on a single charge of injuring with reckless disregard for the safety of others. All other existing charges against him have been dropped.
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    Re: Tony Veitch - the latest

    Post  canterella on Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:05 pm


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    Post  Kosmick on Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:48 pm

    So what will happen now, a slap with a wet bus ticket?

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    Re: Tony Veitch - the latest

    Post  Lynz on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:30 am

    Kosmick wrote:So what will happen now, a slap with a wet bus ticket?

    What would you suggest? Crucifixion?

    He has already paid a pretty high price in the Court of Public Opinion. And paid her compensation.

    Whilst no condoning violence, I doubt she was blameless.

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    Post  Kosmick on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:34 am

    He has so far only paid to buy her slilence, the fine will be a little bit more no doubt.
    Any man who beats the crap out of a woman should do time. If this was standard for all, then maybe men will get the idea it is not good to beat women up.

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    Post  Lynz on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:42 am

    Ahh, but you forget that women beating up blokes is not uncommon. do you advocate the same treatment for them?

    And, in both cases, provocation can play a part. We haven't heard the full story in this case I suspect.
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    Re: Tony Veitch - the latest

    Post  Anjewel on Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:48 am

    Wasn't it something like 300 hours community service...?...Im glad all the other charges were dropped...
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    Post  debs on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:03 am

    Personally I have always been in two minds about this case and believe this outcome to have been the best one....

    based on the incident that he has now admitted too and pleaded guilty he has, lost his job and livelihood, been sentenced to 300 hours community service, 9 months supervision and a $10000 fine, he has paid his victim's costs, $12,000 for physiotherapy costs, and $150,000.

    Now while I do not condone what he did, he has certainly paid for it.

    And I loathe that people constantly imply that he paid her off or bought her silence, she requested it. Her lawyers approached his. So some say he bribed her, but others have also said she blackmailed him...whats the difference??

    Again, I stand by my earlier thoughts, this is a good outcome. IMO.
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    Post  canterella on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:16 am

    Last time I've checked it was 5 years jail for being charged of beating up your missus.
    So he has paid the price? When you;re in the public eye, you had to expect that with fame and glory and big money your downfall will be publicly scrutinised too. What next, pay your way out of murder?
    I pretty much doubt that if it was some Maori guy beating up his wife/partner people and the courts would be so lenient.
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    Post  superarmy on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:28 am

    Time served maybe appropriate?
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    Post  master5o1 on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:40 am

    srsly u guys
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    Post  master5o1 on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:40 am

    master5o1 wrote:srsly u guys

    u guys
    srsly
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    Post  Donkeycheese on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:44 am

    canterella wrote:Last time I've checked it was 5 years jail for being charged of beating up your missus.
    So he has paid the price? When you;re in the public eye, you had to expect that with fame and glory and big money your downfall will be publicly scrutinised too. What next, pay your way out of murder?
    I pretty much doubt that if it was some Maori guy beating up his wife/partner people and the courts would be so lenient.

    but if the money is paid as "compensation", in lieu of criminal charges, is that money now repayable?
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    Post  canterella on Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:48 am

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    Post  Anjewel on Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:34 am

    canterella wrote:Last time I've checked it was 5 years jail for being charged of beating up your missus.
    So he has paid the price? When you;re in the public eye, you had to expect that with fame and glory and big money your downfall will be publicly scrutinised too. What next, pay your way out of murder?
    I pretty much doubt that if it was some Maori guy beating up his wife/partner people and the courts would be so lenient.

    Most maori guys in the local court news seem to just be copping Anger Management Courses on top of reparation of 500 bucks or less for the brutal assault of their partner/s...

    I believe Tony has paid his dues, and should be allowed to get back on with his life now...
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    Post  Tikva on Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:33 am

    What Anjewel said ^^^^
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    Post  debs on Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:18 am

    canterella wrote:Last time I've checked it was 5 years jail for being charged of beating up your missus.
    So he has paid the price? When you;re in the public eye, you had to expect that with fame and glory and big money your downfall will be publicly scrutinised too. What next, pay your way out of murder?
    I pretty much doubt that if it was some Maori guy beating up his wife/partner people and the courts would be so lenient.

    See now, I can tell you that I know for a fact that Joe Bloggs next door wouldn't get as much, one member of my community recently got 12 months supervision and $1200 fine as well as court costs and order to stay away from his partner and attend a stop violence programme for the second offense, (her broke her jaw.....accidentally of course) for the first he was let off with a warning. So yes in my experience he has been treated more harshly because of who he is. And as I said, I am in two minds....two minds because I think he should pay for what he has done, he should be punished and all those things that we want to see happen......has that not happened here?

    I do believe that violence shouldn't ever be condoned, but what are we trying to do here, destroy him?? I mean if the goal is reperation and rehabilitation what more would we want to see happen???
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    Post  canterella on Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:57 am

    He kicked his ex partner while she was laying on the floor, broke her vertebrae in two places and nearly crippled her for life. If he didn't want his dirty undies aired in public he should've thought before he 'lashed out' and maybe if he didn't want this life in the public eye he could've chosen a low profile profession.
    I don't believe at all that his life and reputation has been ruined, what with the majority of public supporting him, SkyTV employing him and the ratings for the sports program Veitch is presenting skyrocketing, and that's before the trial. Other broadcasting companies are gagging to have him on board too (Radio Sport, TVNZ).
    I'm afraid this is not the end of what we heard about Veitch's 'ordeal' because his ratings and popularity are at the all time high.
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    Post  debs on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:29 am

    no doubt you are right, but sadly that says more about the viewing public than it does about him.

    I guess the truth is, his actions were reprehensible I don't doubt that, but what more do people want?? His scalp nailed to a wall somewhere, well that wouldn't be enough for some either.

    His victim has been reported to be happy with the outcome, I guess we have to accept that
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    Post  master5o1 on Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:12 am

    debs wrote:no doubt you are right, but sadly that says more about the viewing public than it does about him.

    I guess the truth is, his actions were reprehensible I don't doubt that, but what more do people want?? His scalp nailed to a wall somewhere, well that wouldn't be enough for some either.

    His victim has been reported to be happy with the outcome, I guess we have to accept that


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    Post  frankiec on Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:20 am

    Imagine if charges had been laid, and pursued, AT THE TIME. I'm sure the penalty would have been pretty much the same as we have seen today, but Tony Veitch would not have spent so much loot. This is probably a sad reflection on our justice system. In such cases, a penalty such as was handed down today is totally inadequate (I'm disregarding what he has already paid).

    I believe the man caused himself a lot of extra grief / hardship by trying to "buy" her silence, instead of fronting up.

    I also believe that Dunn-Powell has done an excellent job of stage-managing the whole scenario.

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    Post  master5o1 on Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:03 am

    frankiec wrote:Imagine if charges had been laid, and pursued, AT THE TIME. I'm sure the penalty would have been pretty much the same as we have seen today, but Tony Veitch would not have spent so much loot. This is probably a sad reflection on our justice system. In such cases, a penalty such as was handed down today is totally inadequate (I'm disregarding what he has already paid).

    I believe the man caused himself a lot of extra grief / hardship by trying to "buy" her silence, instead of fronting up.

    I also believe that Dunn-Powell has done an excellent job of stage-managing the whole scenario.

    Please feel free to shoot me.


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    Re: Tony Veitch - the latest

    Post  Diaz on Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:19 am

    My previous reply became lost in the ether.

    I think Veitch should have faced up to this at the time, irrespective of who did what with the money no one is above the law and assault is a criminal act punishable via the courts. What I don't understand is why people are so hung up on provocation or women assaults vs men, in the first case no provocation justifies assaulting another person when we all have options when things are getting heated like walking away or if there is harassment going then get the police/family court involved. In the other, women don't get a free pass either so why bring it up at all. Yes it does happen but it doesn't excuse the fact he seriously injured his partner when he assaulted her.

    I think judges have a range of sentencing options for crimes, depends on a lot of things what they decide is appropriate. In this case this would seem to be a one-off first offence and community service and a fine may well be thought to be the correct way to go under the circumstances.
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    Post  canterella on Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:23 pm

    Sorry, but this just doesn't seem to go away! Veitch should just STFU now and not threaten the media, because the shit will fly back into his face...Just this morning Susan Devoy rung up Radio Live this morning and claimed that she felt that she has been misled into signing a testimonial for Tony Veitch's character which has been used as evidence in the court case - she was left to believe that her signature was needed for Tony Veitch as a reference for him to get a passport. She claimed that would she ahve known what her signature was to be used for, she wouldn't have signed.
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    Post  KiwiCrichton on Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:29 pm

    canterella wrote:Sorry, but this just doesn't seem to go away! Veitch should just STFU now and not threaten the media, because the shit will fly back into his face...Just this morning Susan Devoy rung up Radio Live this morning and claimed that she felt that she has been misled into signing a testimonial for Tony Veitch's character which has been used as evidence in the court case - she was left to believe that her signature was needed for Tony Veitch as a reference for him to get a passport. She claimed that would she ahve known what her signature was to be used for, she wouldn't have signed.


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